Humanity must not only manage various existential risks, which it has itself created, but also manage its own evolution. The analogy of “becoming a butterfly” is not perfect, since caterpillars and butterflies are the same species. However, what is almost identical is the process of metamorphosis, which humans may have to go through, while evolving into a new species.

These words are from the description of the book Becoming a Butterfly, written by friend and advisor of Future Surge, Tony Czarnecki.

Tony, who is Managing Partner of the think tank Sustensis, continues the description of Becoming a Butterfly as follows:

We may be the only species in the whole Universe which is consciously capable of minimizing the risk of its extinction and control its own evolution in a desired direction. We have already been doing it in some way over millennia by controlling our evolution in a cultural and social sphere, which has also strengthened our resilience to extinction. But today we may also be able to control our physical evolution into a new species. We will only be successful in that evolution if we do it in stages, using a process of transformation similar to a caterpillar becoming a butterfly.

Tony recently joined Rusty Burridge and David Wood, co-hosts of the radio show and audio podcast Humanity Unshackled, to discuss his ideas on the evolution of humanity. The discussion proved so wide-ranging that it has been split into two episodes.

To listen to this episode, click on the audio player at the top of this page.

Alternatively, listen to this episode on Soundcloud, or see the corresponding Radio Hydrogen page.

See here for a review of Becoming a Butterfly.


For a complete listing of Humanity Unshackled episodes, see the Future Surge Media page.


Show notes:

Music: “Far Away 6,” written and performed by Sean Anthony Brennan aka Jonny Carbine & The Lowdown Dirty Dog Band.

Guest: Tony Czarnecki, Managing Partner of Sustensis. Links to Tony’s books:

Presenters: Rusty Burridge & David Wood.

Technology, Admin, Australian FM Radio Network Liaison and Legals: Chris John Doe.

Content Mining, Idea Generation and Reality Checks: Craig Bowles.

Radio Hydrogen Website: Sara Bowles & Chris Doe.

Thanks also to: Bob Evans and all at Tribe FM, Willunga, South Australia (no exceptions!) and to Mysty Ben.

The imagery above includes elements from Sustensis and from Pixabay user Gordon Johnson.

Who would you like to see featured as guests in forthcoming episodes of Humanity Unshackled? Let us know!

Originally published on 4 April 2021.

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